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Re: Slugs?

Postby snail » Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:21 am

dipsydoodlenoodle wrote:My one issue with the ramshorn was that it said the red ones often carry lots of parasites which harm the fish. And obvioulsy I don't want to harm the fish.


Snails can carry parasites but they don't usually. The types of parasites snails carry need another vertebrate host such as a bird to complete the life cycle, so it isn't usually a problem in aquariums. If the snail is tank-bred, you're totally safe. Colour won't affect how many parasites a snail carries.
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Re: Slugs?

Postby dipsydoodlenoodle » Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:58 am

snail wrote:Colour won't affect how many parasites a snail carries.


I didn't think so. I've just read it on the net in a few places, as I was wondering what was different between the colours. Nothing obvioulsy.
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Re: Slugs?

Postby snail » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:45 am

With the native ones, the red ones are simply an "albino" type - they dark the dark pigmentation, so the red of their haemoglobin-filled bodies is fully visible (intermediate brown forms are also common). Not sure about the blues (you don't get blues in the native ramshorn) but I think it's just the selective loss of part of the pigment. The spots are part of their natural markings.
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Re: Slugs?

Postby peecee » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:04 pm

snail wrote:Hmm, I think there are three possibilities. One, the temperatures in there were too cold for them without a heater (these are another tropical species, so temps below 18C are not advisable); two, the goldfish starved them out; or three, they still are there, you just haven't seen them. Have a look after lights out, they are active at night. It's not to be expected there would be a big colony in there unless food was routinely going to waste.

Unless your flat gets quite cold, I would have thought there would still be one or two in there.


Hmmmm. :-? The littl'uns are sold as cold water snails, that's got to be the problem. When I do the water change, the goldies really love it to be cold, rather than room temperature. I don't go as far as putting ice cubes/cream in, but they like cold.
And the goldies are pigs (goldpigs??), but stuff always drops to the bottom, so there are plenty of leftovers. If any snails were there, they'd be stuffing their faces. I've been getting up at 5am for the last week to check on the fishies, and there absolutely definitely aren't any snails left - you've educated me on the nocturnal habits of snails, and there REALLY aren't any left. :cry:

So, as this thread is entitled "slugs", what sort of slugs should I put in the cold water tank, Snail? :P

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Re: Slugs?

Postby snail » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:35 pm

Don't look at me, Pee, Dips went off-topic first. I was just being helpful and replying like the lovely (if rather slack) mod I am O:)
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Re: Slugs?

Postby peecee » Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:25 pm

Ok, SnailY, perhaps we should call this thread "Snugs"? :P
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Re: Slugs?

Postby dipsydoodlenoodle » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:33 am

snail wrote:Don't look at me, Pee, Dips went off-topic first


:O I am innocent I tell you, innocent!..........

I did rename a post on the last page to snails :) if that counts.
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Re: Slugs?

Postby Bel Bel » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:31 pm

I know you are thinking of a tropical tank so I thought I'd mention we are thinking of upgrading our tropical fish to marine fish.
However with pee on partol I am too scared to talk about it anymore :-$
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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby peecee » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:40 pm

It's ok, hun, I've sorted it - talk away!!! :P

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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby dipsydoodlenoodle » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:24 am

Well I'm still unsure about a tropical tank; I've been looking up tropical fishes and the only ones I really like are male guppies so I'm not sure. I like more however the tank I'd be getting wouldn't be practical for the bigger fish. I was also thinking of Axolotl's (http://www.bountyfishing.com/blog/images/axolotl.jpg) since I can fit two adult axolotls in the same sized tank. Plus they eat the same as the newts; but because the newts eat so little a lot of their food goes to waste; so axolotls could help eat the same foods. Plus axolotls are cold water - I can manage cold water :).
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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby Bel Bel » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:47 pm

WOW they are really amazing. I have never seen them before. Very cute.

If you get them make sure you post some pics
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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby dipsydoodlenoodle » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:52 pm

I'm glad you haven't seen them either - I've been doing research and it says they were really common a few years ago - I'd not seen them until about a month ago. I will post photos if I do get any. I need to post some newt photos too :)
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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby captainf » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:28 pm

axolotls are really cute! I think they eat eachothers limbs but they grow back.
I hadnt heard of them until everloney showed me a photo of one a few weeks ago.
So if you have any questions about them ask her as she seems to know a fair bit about them.
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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby dipsydoodlenoodle » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:37 pm

Oh thanks for that; I will ask if I do decide to get them.

They can eat each others limbs; but it doesn't mean to say they will. The thought is disgusting though.
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Re: Slugs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails

Postby captainf » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:34 am

Yeah I know, I was only passing on what I have been told.
They're also used to study limb regeneration (im not for animal testing by the way)
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