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I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:21 am
by captainf
Hi guys,

I know this is going to sound like abit of a weird question but theres a good reason why I ask. When you guys travel as passengers on an aircraft would you prefer that airlines put business/profit ahead of your safety?

I only ask this out of general interest because whenever I watch the news and they're reporting on flight cancellations whether its due to weather or some other sort of situation some passengers come out with some of the oddest things. For example with the closing of Airspace in the UK due to the Volcanic ash from Iceland, a Scottish passenger interviewed said something along the lines of 'I cant see why the flights are all cancelled, the ash isnt at surface level' (I addmit, I fell off of my seat laughing at his surface level comment) but then other passengers then complain about how they got up early, or how they had saved for many months to then have their flights cancelled. I can understand how its an inconvenience to have a flight cancelled but surely having your flight cancelled due to safety reasons is alot better than your relatives burying whats left of your body?

I'm just curious what its like from a passengers perspective because in all honesty I think its a good thing that safety comes first.

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:43 am
by Jo
I agree, safety first. I can't believe anyone would actually complain about having their flight cancelled under these circumstances. You might be disappointed, yes, but to actually complain as if it's someone's fault? That I can't understand.

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:02 am
by RagDoll
I think everyone, including the people that you saw interviewed, would rather their safety came first. People are just venting as it's a frustrating situation; I'm sure they don't, deep down, want to board a plane and fly in those conditions, I'm sure they're just very pee'd off they can't get to wherever they were going to. People say all sorts of things they don't REALLY mean when they're narked!

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:16 am
by snail
Exactly, they're just angry and disappointed, they obviously don't really want to fly under unsafe conditions. You can't be angry at a cloud of dust, so they have to direct it somewhere, it's human nature.

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:02 am
by captainf
Thanks for the replies.
Its very interesting to hear what you all think. I can understand that they want to channel their anger somewhere but I sometimes find it hard to understand why people get so angry about this. I mean, when theres a problem, theres a problem and its safer to cancel flights than let them go and risk peoples lives.

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:07 pm
by peecee
You're right, captainf, but people still have lives, plans, commitments; and there's such a feeling of helplessness when something like this happens and they can't do anything about it. Not helped by the lack of information. I think airlines should supply all customers with a pillow to thump. :lol:

btw, hun, it's alright for you to talk - are you reading the newspaper headlines? "Million Britons stranded by Ash"???

Naughty boy. [-X

:wink:

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:56 pm
by RagDoll
peecee wrote: but people still have lives, plans, commitments


Yeh, if you're meant to be going on holiday, have booked the hotel etc. etc. and can't make it, it's understandable you're upset and a bit angry about the situation. Particularly for those that work full-time... having holidays booked is something to look forward to (I know it helps keep me sane knowing I have some time off coming up!)... having that ruined is a complete bummer, even when it's no ones fault.

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:22 am
by captainf
Yeah, I suppose we all deal with things like that in a different way.
I missed a coach a few years ago. I just rebooked and had to wait 2hrs but it didnt really bother me.
I suppose it depends on how people manage their anger and frustration..

haha Yes, peecee, I decided to ground all flights and ruin everyones weekend :D

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:04 am
by snail
It's not quite the same thing as completely missing a holiday, or being stranded in a foreign country with no accommodation or money for an unknown period of time.

I see Cobra have decided to send naval vessels to retrieve all the stranded Britons.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8628878.stm

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:14 pm
by captainf
It is the same. It relates to stress management, which some people are bad at.
Like for example when passengers arrive late at the airport and miss their flight, some freak out and blame the staff. Theres no point if its your fault. It was my fault when I missed my coach home so I just rebooked (like airline passengers can do)

According to the BBC another ash cloud is on its way towards the UK which may ruin tomorrows plans to re-open parts of the airspace.
Also seems like some airlines are unhappy about the airspace closure - I wonder if the airlines CEO's would still be unhappy about the closure if they were the men and women that had to fly their aircraft with the possible ash cloud risk.

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:22 pm
by captainf
For anyone interested theres a webcam that overlooks the volcano..

http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:18 pm
by Bel Bel
eerie 8-[

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:30 pm
by misatok11
Well safety is a priority. The airlines are more balanced on a risk approach, they want to fly but limited to options.
According to reports on the news airports are to reopen but according to my colleagues in NATS they are still shut as far as they are aware, well the airspace is.

Watch this space!

Re: I'd really like to know

PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:54 pm
by captainf
Hmm! The first plane to land at Heathrow was a BA B747-400 that landed at 10pm and came in from canada and there have been more since.