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Postby Mr.L » Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:54 pm

Isit me or is a lot in ths world fake now? I belive that there isn't enough natural beauty and cosmetic surgery sucks. The world is being polluted with human well humans itself. Does anyone agree?
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Postby saz » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:14 pm

Well a lot of people dont seem to care what they do to their bodies as long as it earns them money, what they see as respect or adoration (to boost self esteem).

There are some cases where plastic surgery is necessary (burns or accidents) but i feel sorry for girls who undergo major surgery to look good. I am not always happy with my looks or figure but would never consider surgery - even if i won the lottery. I truely could think of a million better things to do with the money.

A small part of the problem is the modelling industry, as they often take natural beauties who are very young and by the time they are 30 they are completely different. Just to sell some magazines or papers and this is sad. Girls can obviously make up their own minds (men too i suppose) but if there is enough pressure and they are impressionable, they will go along with it and regret it later.
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Postby Mr.L » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:24 pm

I tend to go for girls who don't wear too much or no make up, that way you can see the natural beauty and see the real them. I don't wna tot offend anyone, its just my personal taste
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Postby saz » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:26 pm

I do agree that if people are having serious problems with their bodies then if it affects them badly they should have plastic surgery.

I dont want to offend either it is up to other people what they do nothing to do with me just i wouldn't.
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Postby sovs » Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:14 am

I would never have anything done to my body, everyone has flaws thats what makes us human.
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Postby Smiler_Princess » Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:26 am

I completely disagree with Plastic and Cosmetic Surgery for people who don't need it, just to look better. If anything, I think people come off worse, and it is expensive.

I wear just a bit of make-up, and go for the 'natural' look during the day. When i go on a girls night out or w/e I'll wear more eyeshadow but I never wear foundation and never go OTT.

I don't think that women should cover their faces with make-up as it looks bad, odd and must be bad for their skin. However it is their own choice and if they feel better for wearing more make-up then that's their choice.

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Postby Bubble » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:00 am

I don't entirely agree that it is bad. I agree it can look bad on those people who are just vain, but it is a good medium to restore the confidence of those people that have had accidents or had their body deformed or scarred in some way. I would also consider plastic surgery for a breast reduction personally.
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Postby saz » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:04 am

I agree with you Donna, especially breast reduction because for some people it can be a nightmare and your health can suffer (bad back etc).

I am pretty vain sometimes, but more that i worry about what i look like but would never have the guts to have any sort of cosmetic operation (like enhancement or liposuction) i would be so scared of it going wrong and looking awful!
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Postby Bubble » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:10 am

I do sometimes get a bad bck, and would consider it, its just so unnecessarily expensive thought, and im quite scared of going under the knife, have had no ops before you see, touch wood.
But im like you for other cosmetic surgery, i personally wouldnt have it done, apart from the breast thing, but i can kind of understand why some people do.
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Postby depman » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:29 am

I agree if you have been scarred after an accident for instance plastic surgery is a good thing
The only thing I think is sad is people who wont leave the way they was born alone and keep tampering with their body
They end up looking stupid and look like a freak :^o
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Postby Smiler_Princess » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:35 am

lol. I agree with depman:

I agree if you have been scarred after an accident for instance plastic surgery is a good thing
The only thing I think is sad is people who wont leave the way they was born alone and keep tampering with their body


I think that people should have it for medical reasons and such like.

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Postby rammsteinrainbow » Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:51 am

I almost never leave the house without makeup! Unless I'm taking the bins out. I feel naked without it.
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Postby KoRn_Freak » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:23 pm

It's unfortunate that the media exploits unrealistic beauty, especially upon women, and emphasises the pressure on having a flat stomach, perfect thighs, flawless skin and no cellulite. It's rare to come across someone who has an incredible figure, because it just isn't realistic, and a lot of people get depressed over the condition of their bodies, and its a well known fact that depression is a major cause of things such as crash dieting, comfort eating and in severe cases, anorexia and bulimia.

As far as plastic and cosmetic surgery is concerned, some people undergo such procedures because their current state is a risk to their health. Such cases do occur, and its unfortunate that it does because it has so many risks, it's costly and can be extremely painful.

But on the issue of make-up, I don't interpret it as a way of hiding my natural exterior. I'm not happy with my complexion, and I wish it was clearer and had a healthier glow to it, but that's just how my teenage hormones have affected it. Make-up is one of my ways of self expression. I'm not afraid to experiment with different colours of styles. I'll wear black eyeliner, bright pink eyeshadow and glitter mascara in the essence of trying to break away from an immediate stereotypical role. I detest comformity immensely, and I'll do whatever it takes to shake up the system and show the world that I'm an individual person and no aspect of society will take that away from me. Sure, some of my make-up is worn to suit to my mood or for a special occasion, but more often than not, I wear it as a statement, just like I would wear fishnet tights on my arms, put bright pink dye in my hair, rip up a pair of jeans and wear spikes and studs, because I don't feel it right to place anyone in a category, regardless of race, gender, creed, colour, or even musical taste.

Yes, both men and women are exploited, but in today's perspective, women are exploited far more as far as pornography and fashion are concerned. It's unfair, and it can set bad examples and cause a lot of controversy with issues such as sexism and misogynism. But breaking away from the media, there are a lot of people in the world who will appreciate men and women for who they are and not for their beauty or bodies because the discrimination and prejudice will cease to exist. An example would be Pamela Anderson: yes she has had cosmetic surgery, yes she is a classic example of "flawlessness" but she is not mindless or unintelligent because of the colour of her hair or because of her size. She is an extremely intelligent woman, a fantastic mother to her children and very grounded and aware of world issues. She has broken away from her role as a "blonde bimbo" and has reached out to many women and restored their self esteem.

A lot of the beauty in the world is false, a lot of it is cosmetic and made of plastic, and more often than not, is airbrushed and set on soft focus to convince us that we can achieve such infinite perfection. There is no such thing as perfection, and never will be, but we will all discover it at some point in our lives by a course of events, or by the people we meet. Everyone percieves perfection in a different way, but the media is trying to convince us that perfection lies in the foundations (bad pun) of unsurpassed beauty.

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Postby KoRn_Freak » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:27 pm

depman wrote:They end up looking stupid and look like a freak :^o


Just like Michael Jackson. He's in denial about it all by saying that its through the changes in his body and the development through puberty. Facial bone structure cannot change as dramatically as his has, a body's skin colour cannot change entirely due to a pigmentation disorder, and through all the extensive surgery he has been through, he's ended up a complete mess and looks grossly deformed.
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Postby sovs » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:37 pm

I totally agree for medical reasons to have plastic surgery etc but i find it stupid for people to have it just to make their breasts bigger, or their bums or lips bigger yuk!
I can understand breast reductiond as i knew a girl who had really big breasts and her back hurt all the time and she had to stand a certian way to stop the pain.
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