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Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:53 pm

I feel so down and I don't know what to do.
I was made redundant at the end of March. I've done everything I possibly can to find a job and am still unemployed. I've sorted out my CV, which I also got my sister to check as I know she'll give me an honest opinion plus she's had to interview people before and look at CVs. I've signed up to all the recruitment agencies in the area, plus ones in London. I keep in contact with the recruitment agencies and I've been looking for jobs online, every day. Not only in Payroll/Accounts (which I have experience in) but also in other fields. I've had interviews and I've tried my hardest in every one of them and most of them gave feedback that I don't have enough experience. I am studying towards an AAT qualification but still have 2 years to go and can't wait until then before I get a job!
I've been given advice like, "Be confident", "Phone the recruitment agencies at least once a week so they know that you're still available", "Keep looking", "Keep positive" - to be honest, I'm getting sick and tired of hearing the same thing over and over and over.
I've tried so hard to be as confident as possible, but I find it so difficult as I'm shy, have very little self esteem and am not the most talkative of people. I don't like myself, I hate the way I look and really need to lose weight. It doesn't help that my parents keep saying that I need to be like my sister who just oozes confidence 24/7. It's feels like they're not happy the way I am and would rather me be her.
I have a wonderful boyfriend who has helped me out alot and I can't understand why he's still with me. He's paying my rent for me and, therefore, has less money for himself. I love him so much and I feel like I'm dragging him down with me and scared he'll get so fed up and will leave me. He keeps telling me to cheer up. He's been through alot and has managed to survive. I'm currently living at home with my mum and stepdad and feel like they're fed up of me being unemployed. They haven't said anything but I just get that feeling. I don't know if it's true or i'm just being paranoid. I can't pay towards anything as I'm living off jobseeker's allowance which, as most people would know, isn't alot at all - which is paying towards travel to interviews, 2 credit cards and phone bill which is monthly. I can't afford to do voluntary work, especially if it's I have to travel by bus or train as I'd be using money going to a place where I don't get paid. I feel like I have no purpose at all. I feel like a waste of space and know that everyone would be better off without me. As my boyfriend would have more money, and my mum wouldn't be paying for my food etc.
I can't see friends much due to lack of money and I only keep in contact with some people through facebook. If I don't have job interviews, I stay in to avoid spending money.
How am I meant to beat the competition for a job when I've done everything I possibly can?
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby Bel Bel » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:42 am

Firstly are you making sure you are getting all the benefits to which you are entitled? Also can the job centre help you with any jobs? I know it's not at all what you want to do but have you tried the supermarkets. Most are flourishing at the moment and lots are employing. It might even mean unsocial hours but you haven't got the money to socialise at the moment anyway. Once in a job i think your are seen as more employable so any job is better than no job. Even if it's part time and you volunteer part time too, that will look good on your CV.

Secondly go to citizens advice about sorting your credit cards so you can pay over a longer term and have the interest frozen or removed completely. They will help you sort this out.

I think voluteer work would be fantastic. If you can sort out better payments on the credit cards you hopefully will be able to afford a bus pass. This will mean you can get more places to look for other jobs too.

Does your boyfriend live in the flat he is paying rent on. Is it possible you can either rent it out if not or he can get a lodger temporarily as your living at home anyway

You need to stop thinking your a burden. When i first met my now hubby I had no money and could barely afford to eat. He took me out every week and paid, paid my car tax and other things besideS. Now I earn 3 times his wage and pay more for the bills, mortgage etc. You would do the same for your boyfriend if the rolls where reveresed and one day they might be, like me

I think your parent are probably more worried than disappointed. It is not your fault and your are trying really hard. it's a bad time at the moment so you need to stop being so hard on yourself. The comparison to your sister is probably to try to help you feel more positive rather than meant to be comparing you to her. Either way I can assure you they would be mortified if they thought you would consider them better off without you, please do not be thinking like this. You can ring the samaritans if you need to talk and are feeling really down. Write down their number and keep it on you at all times

I do think when your down you can sometimes give off the wrong vibe and if your shy anyway that won't help so try to be really positive even if it's only when you have interviews. And please don't think your not worth anything just because you don't have a job. You are doing AAT and I know how hard that is because my sister is doing it. i don't beleive it will be 2 years til you get a job but in two years so many more opportunites will come to you

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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby inc » Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:03 pm

Aw, poor you. I'm in the same boat, so don't feel alone.

I tried and failed to become a teacher and so have been left to rethink my career. I've been applying for jobs every day for the past two months and haven't even had a single interview! Not only this, I am not entitled to any benefits because I have been a student all my life so I'm relying on my parents and husband to look after me. Plus I'm in debt because of my student loan.

My husband's getting fed up with me. He hates his job and can't change it till I find one. I can't see my friends either as I have no money.

It's all very miserable, but I'm trying not to take it too personally. The recession is tough and loads of people are in similar situations. As long as you're trying, you can feel guilt free. Try and see your unemployment and an unexpected, unpaid hoilday, because you will find work soon and you'll probably be rushed off your feet!
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:23 am

Thanks for all your advice...

I don't feel so bad all the time, it's just sometimes when there aren't any jobs around and I haven't heard anything in ages, it makes me wonder if I'll ever find a job.

Inc - have your husband or parents helped you find a job? If he's that fed up with you being unemployed, surely he'd want to help you find a job! Get them to help with your CV, it's always helpful to have an extra pair of eyes incase they spot something that you don't. My sister helped me with mine as she had to look at CV's and do interviews at her previous job so she knew what would sound professional and stand out more. :D
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby inc » Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:39 pm

Yeah, I have had various people look at my CVs but I think what it boils down to is that however I dress it up, I have no real experience. I'm just going to have to keep chipping away at it until someone gives me a chance. I might have to do volunteer work. ](*,)

By the way, I had another idea. Try getting part time work in a shop. Hideous, I know, but bearable if you only do a few hours. That way you'll have bit of money coming in to get out and get some essentials plus you'll still have some spare time for job hunting. Shop work is good because it's easy to get into. Some places will interview you just to make sure you're not a serial killer and then take you on. If you're on jobseekers, I think you can do under 16 hours without it interfering with what they pay you.

Well, hope it goes ok and thanks for the advice. We will get there in the end! :D
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:38 pm

Well, I'm STILL unemployed.

I've had a few interviews. I had 2 last week.

The first one I had on Monday was doing Payroll/Admin (temp for 6 months) for a Japanese bank. I went to the interview and it went really well but I didn't get it. They changed the criteria after my interview as they had realised what they really needed after speaking to me. They said that if they weren't under so much pressure to find someone to fill in (the woman will be off work having chemo) and was just recruiting someone extra, they would've picked me. Typical! I feel like I'm hitting my head against the wall!!

The second one was on Friday. It's for a recruitment agency doing payroll. I had to do 2 tests. Mental arithmetic and Vocabulary. Well, they were both timed and I didn't finish either one, great. After that, she went through what the job would consist of...etc. There were a few things that she mentioned that I hadn't done before, and I don't think she sounded too impressed that I hadn't dealt with as many queries as they wanted me to! It didn't sound too appealing as they have weekly targets and meetings. In my previous jobs, they did targets and meetings every 3 months - and if they were concerned about something they'd mention it asap. And then I mentioned doing AAT and that I would be continuing in September, she didn't sound too pleased about that either.

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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby dipsydoodlenoodle » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:13 pm

Try looking at supermarkets; they aren't the most desirable place to work but they are certainly ok.
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby Bel Bel » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:34 pm

I assume that you mean going back to college to do AAT and thats why the second job weren't too happy.
Have you tried temp agencies, if you are only looking for short term work it would be better for both you and the employer
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:01 pm

I've tried Temp agencies, Perm agencies, everywhere.

Most of my applications have been ignored as I don't have the criteria/experience required.
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby LME79 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:15 am

Hi,

You've mentioned that you are quite shy and that you feel you need to be more confident - are you working on this at all? In job interviews, especially at the moment, you need to be quite sassy to let the employer know that you are the best person for the role. Can I ask, when you are asked questions, are you quiet or quite chatty or a mixture? What sort of companies are the roles you're applying for in? I mean, are they all banking or does it vary? It's so cut throat out there at the moment and I think people would clamber over each other in order to get anything at the moment so bringing your confidence up is very very important.

If you're presented with a role that has tasks you haven't done before - don't worry! Be honest and say you haven't done that particular type of task before but you are eager to learn and expand upon your current skills - stuff like that.

Good luck with the job hunt, let us know how it goes.

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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:46 pm

LME79 wrote:Hi,

You've mentioned that you are quite shy and that you feel you need to be more confident - are you working on this at all? In job interviews, especially at the moment, you need to be quite sassy to let the employer know that you are the best person for the role. Can I ask, when you are asked questions, are you quiet or quite chatty or a mixture? What sort of companies are the roles you're applying for in? I mean, are they all banking or does it vary? It's so cut throat out there at the moment and I think people would clamber over each other in order to get anything at the moment so bringing your confidence up is very very important.

If you're presented with a role that has tasks you haven't done before - don't worry! Be honest and say you haven't done that particular type of task before but you are eager to learn and expand upon your current skills - stuff like that.

Good luck with the job hunt, let us know how it goes.

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Hi,
I am working on my shyness. One of the recruitment agencies that I'm signed up to had a chat with me about how to present myself in interviews etc.
With regards to being asked questions, I'm a mixture of being chatty and quiet. It's fine if I know the answer but if I don't, then I panic and keep thinking, "Oh rubbish, what do i say?" I've had interviews with various companies, not all banks. 2 were recruitment agencies - one for payroll, one for finance assistant. They've been mainly for Accounts assistants but I haven't got alot of experience.
There have been times in interviews where they've said things which I've never done before. Happened a bit in my last interview. They mentioned something about having weekly targets which I've never had to work to before and she didn't seem too impressed that I hadn't dealt with as many payroll queries as they had wanted me to.
I do want to carry on with my AAT but some employers are being stupidly fussy and seem to turn their nose up when I mention that I'm studying. Although I'm doing it in the evening but that means that I would have to leave work at a certain time to get there on time and employers aren't liking this. Which I'm finding annoying as there's alot of adverts saying "Study for AAT, boost your career chances..." ](*,) <---- I feel like that alot!!
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby inc » Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:58 pm

Well, at least you'e getting interviews so you're doing something right! Although I'm not suggesting you should lie in an interview, you do need to dress the truth up a bit sometimes especially as it's so difficult at the moment. Go for any job, just to the interview practice.

I still think going for shop work part-time will help. You will feel a lot more independent and will feel automatically more relaxed when you go for interview because you'll know it isn't the be all and end all. This is what I did and I found it helped a lot. You're more employable if you're already employed.

It's obvious that the interviewers are being put off by the fact you want to continue studying so maybe look for jobs that will fit around your college hours. If the particular job you're going for is unrelated to you're college course, don't mention your intention to study. Employers usually want someone who will stick around.

I really don't think being introverted is a bad thing! You just need to come across as quietly confident. Make sure you know what you're good at and how it relates to you're job. If you're shy or modest, just make sure you don't undermine yourself and always focus on the positive.
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:07 pm

inc wrote:Well, at least you'e getting interviews so you're doing something right! Although I'm not suggesting you should lie in an interview, you do need to dress the truth up a bit sometimes especially as it's so difficult at the moment. Go for any job, just to the interview practice.

I still think going for shop work part-time will help. You will feel a lot more independent and will feel automatically more relaxed when you go for interview because you'll know it isn't the be all and end all. This is what I did and I found it helped a lot. You're more employable if you're already employed.

It's obvious that the interviewers are being put off by the fact you want to continue studying so maybe look for jobs that will fit around your college hours. If the particular job you're going for is unrelated to you're college course, don't mention your intention to study. Employers usually want someone who will stick around.

I really don't think being introverted is a bad thing! You just need to come across as quietly confident. Make sure you know what you're good at and how it relates to you're job. If you're shy or modest, just make sure you don't undermine yourself and always focus on the positive.


I wouldn't mind working in a shop part time but it's not as easy as it sounds. There aren't any recruiting near me and I can't afford to work in London part time coz travel costs alot. Plus they're more likely to pick someone with experience over someone who hasn't, and they can be as picky as they like as they have alot of people to choose from.
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby Bel Bel » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:13 am

Have you tried the local hardware stores like b and q.
I would visit every place of business in yur area and drop in a cv.
At least you will feel like your trying, don't give upo and try not to have a negative attitude as it comes off in your body language and you look less appealing to an employer
Don't assume they will pick someone more experienced not every employer is looking for the same thing. Some don't want people who bring fixed ideas from other places. You are a blank canvass and they can teach you how they want you to work not how you think you should work because you have been other places before in retail.
As I siad beofer get into volunteer work, it can often lead to employment as someone sees the value of you and you get more contact with people you wouldn't otherwise meet.
If you hven't tried all these things it's too early to be so negative
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Re: Was made redundant and don't know what else to do...

Postby sazzled » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:47 pm

Bel Bel wrote: Don't assume they will pick someone more experienced


Coming from experience of having job interviews recently, it is very beneficial to have experience - or to actually know what you're talking about.
For example, I had an interview today. It was a group interview for a payroll/accounts position (which I have experience in). The employer asked us questions, I answered most of them, it actually got to the point where the interviewer joked saying that I shouldn't answer any more questions!
At the end of the group interview, they asked us if we could pick anyone in the group (except ourselves) who we think would be good for the job, who would it be and why. I got the majority of the votes because I answered the questions correctly and knew what I was on about.
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