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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:39 am
by wireless
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Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:58 pm
by Bel Bel
You should know exactly why people drink or you wouldn't be a recovering alcoholic. (if you were an ex alcoholic you would be back on the booze - lol)

Most people do it as it helps them relax and open up a bit more.

Yes when it's to excess then drunk talk comes in. Not everyone drinks to excess though so don't tar everyone with the same brush

I think life has got more hectic (not necessarily harder, we don't have to scrub our clothes on a mangle anymore) and people need downtime. Time to get away from various pressures. Drink is a quick way to do this. It's also the most acceptable drug to take as it's legal.

That said just because it's legal doesn't make it ok. I lived with an alcoholic step dad who beat my mum for years so I have seen first hand how drink can become a problem.

I don't think anyone intends to become an alcoholic though, do you?

Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:35 pm
by flashcampbell
Also, a lot of people who drink don't see their drinking as a problem. They're just having a laugh, enjoying Saturday night etc, etc. I expect it takes a lot of time for their friends and relatives to view it as a problem, too - they're just a laugh, happy-go-lucky, a party animal. It's something that creeps up on you. No one starts off on Vodka and Cornflakes in the morning. The process is very gradual.

Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:26 pm
by wireless
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Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:32 pm
by rufio89
But you're not everyone. I certainly dont have a drinking problem but I like to have a drink at the weekend or at the end of a stressful day - it DOES relax people, it's actually scientifically proven to have physically relaxing properties (as opposed to say cigarettes which have a psychologically relaxing effect but not a physical one), but I could easily go days, weeks or months at a time without a drink.

Not everyone who drinks is in danger of becoming dependent, and most people keep their drinking habits under control.

Maybe you can relax by having a cup of tea and listening to music, another person might relax by going to the gym and having a good workout, another person might relax with a hot chocolate and a good moan, someone else might relax with a hot bath, someone else might relax with cannabis, and others might relax with harder drugs. So long as theyre not doing anything that's hurting anybody there's nothing morally wrong in any of these, and assuming there's nothing illegal involved then there's nothing wrong with any of them, legally or otherwise. Having a drink or a few is an easier, more socially acceptable and usually nicely social way of getting together and letting off steam. Obviously for some people this winds up getting out of control and they cant stop, but these people are in the minority and usually have other self-destructive personality attributes.

Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:46 pm
by wireless
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Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:51 pm
by Bel Bel
No it proves a point about some people, the people you know
It certainly does not prove something about everyone
Also be careful not to get a mindset like this against everyone who drinks as it will restrict the number of people you are willing to be friends with or socialise with and that isn't healthy
Yes you can cut people out who aren't healthy for you but just because they have a drink at a weekend doesn't mean they don't have other qualities to bring to a friendship
Some friends are good for socialise, others fro fishing, others for advice, others for problem solving. There are many different types of friendships and you don't have to approve of every aspect of someones lifestyle to let them be your friend

Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:41 am
by flashcampbell
Perhaps also, as a recovering alcoholic, you're seeing alcoholism everywhere? I remember one of my mum's friends saying that to my mum when I was growing up because she liked a drink but the lady ended up taking it back and apologising months later as she said it was part of her recovery.

Also, I think, at 25, it's pretty normal to go out at weekends and drink. I know I did but it all stopped when I had kids as hangovers and kids do not mix! Also, my recovery is longer now and I don't see the point in wasting a day nursing a hangover so it's partly maturity, too.

Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:07 am
by wireless
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Re: do people really need alcohol

PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:25 am
by Bel Bel
I don't use facebook but people don't believe everything on it at all, that is a very sweeping statement that has no basis.


Why did you drink alcohol? It is odd that you want to critisise everyone who drinks yet you are a recovering alcoholic. Not everybody has a problem with alcohol. The vast majority of people have fun and don't cause any problems. Yes there are some people who can't handle it or get violent but not every medicine is suitable for every person does that mean we shouldn't try them!

I tell you why i drink because I like it. I also like chocolate. i partake in both regularly but not to excess.

My granddad is over 100 and he has drunk moderately since he was 13 and he has never been in any trouble or even had a hangover.